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KK
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| Subject: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Thu May 20, 2010 12:10 pm | |
| Senators press for National Guard troops on border
AFP/Getty Images/File – Louisiana National guard members stand near the area where what appears to be small oil globs have washed … By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press Writer – Thu May 20, 7:10 am ET WASHINGTON – Homeland Security and Pentagon officials are at loggerheads over a plan to send National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border, even as President Barack Obama is pledging to bolster security there.
The Guard stalemate has festered for nearly a year, and frustrated lawmakers are demanding action to stem the spread of violence and drug trafficking that has spilled across the border into their states. The inaction raises questions about whether the White House is convinced the federally funded deployment is necessary, or whether border states will be forced to bear the costs of dispatching the Guard troops on their own.
Speaking at the White House on Wednesday with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, Obama said the U.S. is committed to standing with Mexico against the drug cartels.
"As your partner, we'll give you the support you need to prevail," he said, adding that through increased law enforcement on the U.S. side of the border, "we're putting unprecedented pressure on those who traffic in drugs, guns and people."
Fueling the discord over sending the National Guard to the border was the U.S. response to the Gulf oil spill, which has included federal authorization for deploying up to 17,000 National Guard troops.
Those costs, however, are likely to be borne by oil giant BP PLC, which leased the offshore drilling rig Deepwater Horizon that exploded off the Louisiana coast April 20, killing 11 and releasing a huge, continuing oil spill.
The oil spill notwithstanding, border state lawmakers say they need help too.
"If you'll indulge me, we think we have another crisis on the border," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano at a hearing this week. "I want to know about whether you're going to send the Guard to the border or not."
When she tried to explain other DHS improvements along the border, McCain cut her off.
"People's homes are being violated, and their families can't take kids to the bus stop," the senator fumed. "And you are very familiar with the issue, because you yourself asked for the Guard to go to the border back in 2006."
Napolitano, a former Arizona governor, responded that the request involves the White House as well as the Pentagon and the Homeland Security Department, and is still in the interagency process. While she said she would like the decision to be made as soon as possible, she added she could not say when she would have an answer.
"We don't have a resolution on that yet," Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart said in an interview with The Associated Press. Renuart, who headed the U.S. Northern Command until his retirement Wednesday after 39 years of service, added that while money is a point of contention, the greater disagreement centers on what missions the National Guard would perform.
He said the discussion between the Defense and Homeland Security departments continues, and some of the requests "have evolved a bit in this interim period." He did not provide details.
First floated last June, the idea was to use 1,500 Guard troops temporarily to supplement border patrol agents. The Pentagon and Homeland Security drafted a $225 million plan, but disagreed over who would pay for it and how the troops would be utilized.
Pentagon officials, worried about perceptions that the U.S. was militarizing the border, argued that the Guard could only be used for particular duties. Military leaders said they did not want Guard troops to screen vehicles at border points or perform any law enforcement duties, and said the program should be temporary and not tied to any existing program that could get extended.
Defense officials have said that possible missions for the Guard soldiers could include surveillance along the border, intelligence analysis, helicopter transportation support and aviation surveillance, which likely would involve unmanned aircraft.
In a letter to Obama this week, McCain and Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said sending at least 6,000 National Guard to the border — with half focused on the Arizona portion — would immediately improve the safety of Americans there.
White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said the administration has taken a number of steps to improve security at the border, including adding more law enforcement personnel and prosecutors, and increasing cooperation with the Mexican government.
"The president is firmly committed to ensuring that our Southwest border is secure," Shapiro said. "The administration continues to evaluate additional law enforcement options as well as the use of the National Guard, as needed, along the Southwest border." | |
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BMG
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| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri May 21, 2010 11:27 am | |
| I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri May 21, 2010 1:14 pm | |
| - BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning | |
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BMG
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| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri May 21, 2010 2:27 pm | |
| - KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning How can a sham that is so obvious and transparent work so well ? I guess P.T. Barnum could explain that one real well. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri May 21, 2010 10:02 pm | |
| - BMG wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning How can a sham that is so obvious and transparent work so well ?
I guess P.T. Barnum could explain that one real well. there are liberals out there | |
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Joebert
Age : 63 Location : @ Computer Hobbies : Sleep/Photography Humor : Seinfeld (show) has it all! Super Powers : Faster than a speeding bulet...is that bad? Number of posts : 3905 pennies : 3262 Rep : 97
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sat May 22, 2010 3:57 am | |
| - KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning How can a sham that is so obvious and transparent work so well ?
I guess P.T. Barnum could explain that one real well. there are liberals out there They are ALL a problem. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun May 23, 2010 3:50 pm | |
| - Joebert wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning How can a sham that is so obvious and transparent work so well ?
I guess P.T. Barnum could explain that one real well. there are liberals out there They are ALL a problem. why do libs say the support homosexuality and then call people they don't like fags? | |
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BMG
Location : Dont know......I'm lost Humor : Twisted Number of posts : 2571 pennies : 2320 Rep : 79
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun May 23, 2010 4:12 pm | |
| - KK wrote:
- Joebert wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- I'm all for it but it wont happen. They will just talk about it a lot.
election year positioning How can a sham that is so obvious and transparent work so well ?
I guess P.T. Barnum could explain that one real well. there are liberals out there They are ALL a problem. why do libs say the support homosexuality and then call people they don't like fags? I guess you didnt get the memo. Name calling is OK for liberals to do because anything is OK for liberals to do if it furthers their cause. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun May 23, 2010 6:12 pm | |
| I guess you didnt get the memo. Name calling is OK for liberals to do because anything is OK for liberals to do if it furthers their cause.[/quote]
ah, chapter 6 of the liberal handbook | |
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Joebert
Age : 63 Location : @ Computer Hobbies : Sleep/Photography Humor : Seinfeld (show) has it all! Super Powers : Faster than a speeding bulet...is that bad? Number of posts : 3905 pennies : 3262 Rep : 97
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Mon May 24, 2010 1:45 am | |
| What there's a hand book too? | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Mon May 24, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| - Joebert wrote:
- What there's a hand book too?
and it must be memorized | |
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BMG
Location : Dont know......I'm lost Humor : Twisted Number of posts : 2571 pennies : 2320 Rep : 79
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Wed May 26, 2010 10:29 am | |
| - KK wrote:
- Joebert wrote:
- What there's a hand book too?
and it must be memorized There will be tests too from time to time to make sure it sank in and was retained. | |
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c/thru
Blurts : What is this decade called ? Location : almost Mile High Hobbies : Freedom Tracker Humor : floating under a delicate layer of apathy Super Powers : can turn water into ice Number of posts : 3049 pennies : 3303 Rep : 123
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Thu May 27, 2010 10:12 am | |
| shouldn't Arizona have to pay for all that ? | |
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BMG
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| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Thu May 27, 2010 12:27 pm | |
| - c/thru wrote:
- shouldn't Arizona have to pay for all that ?
IMO...... no The entire country would benefit from it. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Thu May 27, 2010 4:28 pm | |
| - c/thru wrote:
- shouldn't Arizona have to pay for all that ?
i think it's a national issue. leave it to arizona to fix on their own and they will be pissing off all the liberal groups with the laws they pass | |
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Joebert
Age : 63 Location : @ Computer Hobbies : Sleep/Photography Humor : Seinfeld (show) has it all! Super Powers : Faster than a speeding bulet...is that bad? Number of posts : 3905 pennies : 3262 Rep : 97
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri May 28, 2010 4:25 am | |
| They are closest to the problem so who better to fix it. How much have the illegals drained out of the health care system? Seems like California would want to get in on it too. Just think how much it would save them. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun May 30, 2010 10:01 pm | |
| - Joebert wrote:
- They are closest to the problem so who better to fix it. How much have the illegals drained out of the health care system? Seems like California would want to get in on it too. Just think how much it would save them.
california just started a scholarship fund for illegals. yep, they are broke but they have money to give illegals scholarships | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:28 pm | |
| that would make russia, china and N korea very happy | |
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stevaroni
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| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:46 pm | |
| How abot sending real troops to the border? | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:52 pm | |
| - stevaroni wrote:
- How abot sending real troops to the border?
too politically incorrect | |
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BMG
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| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:15 pm | |
| - stevaroni wrote:
- How abot sending real troops to the border?
Well.....OK.......but no live ammo. | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:01 pm | |
| - BMG wrote:
- stevaroni wrote:
- How abot sending real troops to the border?
Well.....OK.......but no live ammo. they can go as observers | |
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c/thru
Blurts : What is this decade called ? Location : almost Mile High Hobbies : Freedom Tracker Humor : floating under a delicate layer of apathy Super Powers : can turn water into ice Number of posts : 3049 pennies : 3303 Rep : 123
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| - paripalu wrote:
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......We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence. =======================
not even if they have enough bribe money ? | |
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KK
Location : New York Super Powers : poastwhore Number of posts : 8316 pennies : 7853 Rep : 354
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:37 pm | |
| - c/thru wrote:
- paripalu wrote:
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......We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence. =======================
not even if they have enough bribe money ? and my PO Box # | |
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Joebert
Age : 63 Location : @ Computer Hobbies : Sleep/Photography Humor : Seinfeld (show) has it all! Super Powers : Faster than a speeding bulet...is that bad? Number of posts : 3905 pennies : 3262 Rep : 97
| Subject: Re: Senators press for National Guard troops on border Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:36 am | |
| - KK wrote:
- BMG wrote:
- stevaroni wrote:
- How abot sending real troops to the border?
Well.....OK.......but no live ammo. they can go as observers What? Give them a rifle and open fire. THEY ARE ILLEGALS!!! | |
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