Cloud 9 Forumn
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Cloud 9 Forumn

HAVE AN AMAZING DAY !!!

ARCHIVED FORUMN

ATTEND YOUR TROLLHOLICS ANONYMOUS MEETINGS OFFLINE...giggles


 
HomeLatest imagesRegisterLog in
"Al Gore"   - Tango   7/4/10 4:56 pm
"I don't understand all the threads here."   -Alberta boy  12/01/2010 5:09 pm
"Wow..I did bad..and I usually do good..."    - Lady Snipe Dragon   11/26/2010  5:14 pm
"my hairspray helps protect me from evil thoughts" - Joe King   1/09/2010 9:17 am

"so i was right"   - KK     9/9/10 6:35 pm

 "It makes me crazy but it keeps me sane. I think there's a name for that!"  - Giada       2/21/10  12:51 pm
"Guilty......and woke up with a shirt on I didn't recognize."   - BMG    8/24/10  5:57 am
"aww come on you guys quit posting"  - Joebert   9/9/10  2:49 am
the goblin quickly apologized for his strange lapses into intellectualism here   9/6/10  12:24 am
"I don't know who you are, but....I LOVE YOU!"  - Angelica   12/29/2010  4:24 pm
"lol.... lure me to picture threads"  - jjjamesjchrist    4/20/2010  9:04 pm
"I just don't understand most people."   - silversunpickup    9/7/10  4:36 pm
" ...me too neither then,"   - Jats    8/10/10 5:07 am

"Bet now you're sorry you asked "   - Edelweiss     7/19/10 11:32 am


 

 'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...

Go down 
2 posters
AuthorMessage
java

java


Number of posts : 3126
pennies : 2097
Rep : 58

'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Empty
PostSubject: 'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...   'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Icon_minitimeSat Dec 13, 2008 7:47 pm

'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Peak_oil_540
Oil workers operate a rig in Midland County, Texas, in June 2008. AFP/Getty Images
'Peak Oil Theory' Demands Energy Alternatives
by John Burnett


Report by International Energy Agency (IEA) supports 'Peak Oil' theory: http://www.worldenergyoutlook.org/

Report by Cambridge Energy Research Associates (CERA) says peak not imminent: http://cera.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0236-821_ITM

Weekend Edition Saturday, December 13, 2008 · Plummeting gasoline and diesel prices have given consumers relief at the pump. But oil pessimists believe the current slump in demand will pass. And when it does, the world will be in the same fix it was before the global recession. The era of easy oil is behind us. According to those who believe in what's called "peak oil theory," world oil production has already peaked, or flattened, and in the foreseeable future, the declining resource will inevitably change the way we live.

Brainstorming How To Stop Using Oil

A group in Austin, Texas, meets once a month to prepare for the end of oil. They call themselves Crude Awakening.

"When gas prices peaked here about six months ago, we had the largest meeting in July. We had about 25 people show up," said Brian McNerney, a 46-year-old retired Army lieutenant colonel.

On a recent night, about a dozen people showed up. What this group does — and dozens like it around the United States and the globe do — is trade lifestyle tips on how to kick oil addiction.

"I've been aware of peak oil for about three years now. And since then, I've personally changed my life. I got rid of my cars and get around by bicycle 90 percent of the time," said Paul Karagas, who is 44 and works in the semiconductor industry.

The group discusses things like bicycle maintenance, the best hybrids to drive, gardening, shopping locally and installing solar panels. Each has had his own crude awakening, said Greg Bowsner, a 37-year-old network administrator.

"Oh my God, I think it's oil that's really going to be the first thing that smacks us in the face and forces us to confront the fact that we cannot live this way any longer, that this is not sustainable," he said.

On the meeting night in early November, there was big news. The usually staid International Energy Agency in Paris had just issued an alarming report that concluded what is needed is nothing short of an energy revolution, a rapid move toward low-carbon societies.

"I don't know if y'all have read this or not," said the night's speaker, Michael Osborne of Austin Energy, the city-owned utility with a national reputation for energy efficiency, "but the first paragraph of the executive summary says, 'The world's energy system is at a crossroads. Current global trends in energy supply and consumption are patently unsustainable. But that can and must be altered.' "

Debating When To Start Worrying

Oil industry executives don't doubt that world oil production will one day peak. The debate is over when. The orthodoxy — set forth by most major oil companies, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and the U.S. Energy Information Administration — is that the inevitable plateau is still decades away, probably past the middle of this century. And by then, we'll have even more renewable energy sources in place, and even better technology to extract hard-to-get reserves. So, their message is — don't panic.

"What I have a problem with is that global production will peak in the very short term and then the tank will run dry very quickly thereafter. I don't think it's quite as black and white as that. I mean, clearly we're dealing with a finite resource, but we see strong growth in oil supply unfolding in the next few years, and there is a strong inventory of new projects of oil already discovered," said Peter Jackson, senior oil industry analyst at the influential Cambridge Energy Research Associates. He's the author of a 2006 report, "Why the Peak Oil Theory Falls Down."

Jackson points to major new deep-water projects in Brazil, Angola and Nigeria and the expectation of plentiful nonconventional oil from Canada and Venezuela.

His optimism is in contrast to the dire predictions of peak oil's foremost prophet, Matt Simmons.

"I am saying the sky is falling. If we ignore peak oil; worse, if we laugh about it, continue consuming, we will have a massive shortage," Simmons said from his office in Houston. The garrulous, 65-year-old oil-field investment banker said the world's giant oil fields are all in decline — from the North Sea to Mexico's Cantarell field.

"Energy reality, if you take off rose-colored glasses and just study data, is that crude oil in most non-OPEC countries is now in decline, and in too many countries in steep decline. Virtually all of the OPEC producers, with the exception of Angola, are really struggling to keep their production flat," he said in a recent speech to the Houston chapter of the Young Professionals in Energy.

The fresh-faced group listening intently to him comprises the next generation of energy industry leaders. A quick poll of them revealed they're not as sanguine about the future of oil as the current industry leadership.

"People don't understand how serious the problem is. Like [Simmons] pointed out, the declines in Mexico are huge, the declines in Venezuela are huge," said Matt Boyd, 34, a geologist for Southwestern Energy.

"I think he's a little bit on the aggressive side in believing that we've already peaked," said Mike Cox, 27, with Schlumberger Business Consulting. "But I do agree we have that on the horizon, and there's not an infinite amount of oil and at some point we'll have to deal with the declining curve."

Another member of the audience was 23-year-old Andrew Keene, an energy lender. "I think the world is definitely running out of oil," said Keene. "I don't think the predictions that Saudi Arabia can replace 15 to 35 million barrels a day is feasible. And we need to consider some alternatives and some other options."


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98203926
Back to top Go down
Alberta Boy

Alberta Boy


Age : 63
Location : little town south Of calgary
Hobbies : Carpenter/Rugby Ref-player/former scuba instructor/D2 addict (mostly cured - look out for D3 though)
Humor : the quick quip and the surprise ending
Super Powers : can fold fitted sheets Number of posts : 425
pennies : 160
Rep : 15

'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Empty
PostSubject: Re: 'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...   'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Icon_minitimeSat Dec 13, 2008 10:15 pm

HEY!! I am from Alberta, "Starts to spin special hypnotic disc" There is no such thing as a shortage of oil. There is no reason to alter your life style. Continue to drive your luxury SUV's to go the half a block to 7-11. Kerosene fired electrical generators make your air conditioners run colder in summer. Natural Gas and heating oil furnaces keep your home toasier in winter. There is no reason to think we won't continue to supply you with all the oil you need, for now and into the global warmed future. In fact, you should go out and start your vehicle and just let it idle overnight in celebration.

But there is no reason to declare war on us and invade to ensure your supply. We have no weapon's of mass destruction here. Celine Dion is located in Eastern Canada, or Las Vegas. She is not a terrorist cel, no matter how annoying she becomes.
Back to top Go down
java

java


Number of posts : 3126
pennies : 2097
Rep : 58

'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Empty
PostSubject: Re: 'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...   'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 14, 2008 10:02 am

Alberta Boy wrote:
HEY!! I am from Alberta, "Starts to spin special hypnotic disc" There is no such thing as a shortage of oil. There is no reason to alter your life style. Continue to drive your luxury SUV's to go the half a block to 7-11. Kerosene fired electrical generators make your air conditioners run colder in summer. Natural Gas and heating oil furnaces keep your home toasier in winter. There is no reason to think we won't continue to supply you with all the oil you need, for now and into the global warmed future. In fact, you should go out and start your vehicle and just let it idle overnight in celebration.

But there is no reason to declare war on us and invade to ensure your supply. We have no weapon's of mass destruction here. Celine Dion is located in Eastern Canada, or Las Vegas. She is not a terrorist cel, no matter how annoying she becomes.
I am going to burn some old tires in celebration right now... I am...
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Empty
PostSubject: Re: 'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...   'Peak Oil' crisis imminent?  'Think tanks' disagree... Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
'Peak Oil' crisis imminent? 'Think tanks' disagree...
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» my midlife crisis is in full swing ....
» Nevada candidate touts speedy fix to budget crisis
» Stocks slip on concerns euro crisis will spread

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Cloud 9 Forumn :: Cloud 9 Forum :: Politics & News-
Jump to: